Comments on: Clickbait and switch https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/ AUTHOR | SPEAKER | MISSIOLOGIST | AGITATOR Thu, 05 Oct 2017 03:54:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Michael Zeppel https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-197 Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:13:36 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-197 Good article Mike. We really do need to give ourselves time to think things through, and the internet seems like a hard place to do that. I have to confess though, I did look for a ‘like’ button at the end of your piece- I’m glad there wasn’t one

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By: Rebekah Robinson https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-196 Mon, 17 Oct 2016 02:19:59 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-196 We need a few things before we can do ‘deep dialogue’. The first is openness. I find it a challenge to both have and to find a mind willing to concede and learn something. Often the deepest thinkers in my pool of friends are the ones with the most entrenched ideas. This leads less to dialogue and more to diatribe. And I’m equally guilty.

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By: Darryl https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-195 Mon, 17 Oct 2016 00:58:44 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-195 I’m not disagreeing with you in any way, but there’s a touch of irony in your article about the problems of shareability while having a ‘Share This’ call to action at the bottom of the screen.

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By: Dave Berlach https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-193 Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:57:42 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-193 ps – I think I have a little bit if a man crush on Waleed Aly! 🙂
I don’t have a TV but whenever I’ve seen snippets of him online, or read his essays/columns I find it hard to criticise what he says!

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By: Dave Berlach https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-192 Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:41:47 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-192 Ha – this is so interesting – I was just recently having a conversation with a friend and asked him about his position on Christian Existentialism of the Kirkegaardian variety (he’s a lecturer at Morling conincedentally and focuses on theological philosophy).

The topic of constant media saturation came up and he commented:

“I think if we remeber that Kierkegaard’s obsession with individuation and responsibility is about finding genuine faith, vis a vis the false individuation offered by normalising social institutions such as the state Church, then I think his relentless deconstruction of a false individuality is something might be helpful in our society of ‘individuals.’ His repudiation of aesthetics–understood in its pre mock-Hegelian sublation into religion as flight from boredom–is also pertinent in a society of smartphones and streaming media”

Being a complete novice and needing to read his thoughts with a thesaurus on hand, I asked:

“I really resonate with his obsession with authenticity. I think it could speak greatly to the ways we often live in the west. It’s a challenge to church people to examine their lives in a way that is much less abstract than is so often the case in churches.

You mention false individuality; would you agree that in our current society, the smart phone and constant media streaming in many ways serves as another normalising institution? So whilst we may be much more alone and have the appearance of making our own decisions, we are actually not making individual choices at all, rather selections from a set of socially curated options set before us?”

What we ended up agreeing was that social media/constant media saturation, “as a part of a whole world-system, obscures or perverts important aspects of reality such that we are drawn to live within a set of false boundaries, and become blind to our blindness.”

I think this addition to what you are saying – not only are our attention spans shorter and our paradigms so much more tightly constrained, but it strips us of any authenticity and makes us so completely consumed in groupthink that we can’t even see the contradictions and myopia in what we engage with. We talk about “conversations” but are almost completely unable to have an actual authentic conversation.

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By: Mike Frost https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-191 Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:23:21 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-191 There are links to Waleed Aly’s lecture and Malcolm Gladwell’s podcast in the blog. They are both really worth your time to engage with. Are Christians shaping the culture around them or simply being shaped by the way online communication has changed things?

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By: Jim Mather https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-190 Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:08:59 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-190 Helpful thoughts

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By: Cynthia https://mikefrost.net/clickbait-and-switch/#comment-189 Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:08:47 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26240#comment-189 Thank you so much for this Mike. I feel so frustrated about this. There’s so much rubbish and trivia everywhere. It’s exhausting. It makes me want to retreat to my cave although a little voice is also urging me to write. Your article is timely. Thanks again.

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