Comments on: Let’s be freed from our obsession with the bad president https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/ AUTHOR | SPEAKER | MISSIOLOGIST | AGITATOR Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:18:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.4 By: Tom https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6793 Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:18:49 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6793 Patricia, the only thing we can say about how God might feel about Donald Trump is he loves him after all he is God’s child. I like to think the best of someone until I know better. If the media is my information then I would surely be confused and misinformed. I would not want to address weather someone is a christian or not as that is in their heart not mine and I definitely need to stay focused on my own heart. The most important thing I got out of this article was how much focus people have on politics, President Trump and the world and what it is doing. To much attention given tot these things. Good to be informed just not consumed to a point it changes who is in us if we are Christ followers. Patience,love and mercy and prayer will allow more room for God in our life. This will radically change us and those around us. Jesus is the answer. Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts on your reply and the post.

]]> By: Michael Frost https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6427 Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:04:26 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6427 In reply to Patricia E Apy.

Thanks Patricia. I have admired your work from afar. All power to you.

]]> By: Patricia E Apy https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6426 Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:33:46 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6426 In reply to Michael Frost.

Michael, I do not believe that when President Trump was elected that the Lord gasped in horror and surprise , wondering how could this have happened…. I believe that Trump , his positions and behaviors have revealed a great deal about the American Church and who Christ followers must actually be.. who they genuinely follow, what we actually believe to be true, in a unique way. Incidentally I have shared your earlier post re the Black Knight…”Just a Flesh Wound” with students and lawyers working on the front lines of the child reunification issues… it brought them… and me… to tears…. it’s never been about Trump… it’s always been about the Kingdom.

]]> By: Jeannette https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6420 Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:14:03 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6420 Dear Patty – your posts make so much sense in this tipsy topsy world we live in these days. We truly need level and compassionate words to keep us sane. Thanks to you , you are able t o express these thoughts clearly for us to digest. Bless you !,

]]> By: Cindy Leinonen https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6419 Fri, 27 Jul 2018 00:00:38 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6419 In reply to Michael Frost.

I love your posts.
I am trying to walk the line between resistance and vitriol.
Thanks for all the good you do in the world

]]> By: Michael Frost https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6417 Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:49:12 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6417 In reply to Cindy Leinonen.

I wasn’t saying we should overlook Mr Trump’s lying. Neither was I suggesting we acquiesce to his policies or decisions. I was saying that political discourse and protest is important. I was simply asking readers to be released from the vitriol and fury that seems to characterize that discourse.

]]> By: Cindy Leinonen https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6414 Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:38:48 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6414 In reply to Patricia E Apy.

I agree with the basic idea that we need to put our trust in God’s kingdom and following Jesus, not in governments.
However, the so-called lies of other presidents are in no way equivalent to the lies of our current president. Real people are being hurt by these lies. Everything from health care to the environment is affecting many.
I am heartened by Jesus followers standing up for the poor, the immigrants and refugees.
It is not easy watching our Christian brothers and sisters turn a blind eye to an administration that tell many lies daily. Simply no correlation to past president’s “lies.”
It is tiring and counterproductive to rant about our president. But neither can his lies be overlooked. Daily prayer and reading Jesus’s words will keep us out of the darkness and in the light

]]> By: Patricia E Apy https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6412 Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:00:58 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6412 As a Christ follower living in America, I am similarly exhausted by the rancour and rhetoric…but as an international lawyer who has consulted with every administration since the first President Bush, I cannot agree that the current situation is analogous to the critique of prior Presidents, nor do I see this as a Democratic/Republican issue. The current President has engaged in behaviors that have been unprecedented. The breadth of unilateral actions, taken under the guise of executive action ( not legislation) , often against the most vulnerable and marginalized is compounded with a top down, secretive , often personally vindictive approach to the formation of national “policy” , the disregard and denegration , not only of our professional intelligence gatherers, but career diplomats, and other apolitical personnel, is further compounded by a wholesale attack on the press. There are very few similarities between the history of special prosecutors, and the current criminal prosecution which has already resulted in foreign and domestic indictments. To fight for the protection of the refugee, or the marginalized, as you suggest , has not been championed by many in the American “evangelical “ community… and doing so has taken extraordinary legal work , in response to governmental action unsupported by law. The good news, is that Christ followers are forced to evaluate the actions of the government, in light of the gospel – not party affiliation or platforms.

]]> By: Cheryl F https://mikefrost.net/lets-be-freed-from-our-obsession-with-the-bad-president/#comment-6409 Thu, 26 Jul 2018 05:37:02 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=28057#comment-6409 The ‘obsession with the bad president’ — for or against — is sucking the air out of debate outside the US too. I have not seen anything like this in the last 40 years of my politically aware adulthood. Here in Australia we rolled our eyes at the Monica scandal & got up an outrage (mainly at our own government) over the WMD fiasco as an ally who sent troops to Iraq. Now our media cycle feeds on general disbelief at the latest tweet & about Trump’s attitude to trade and allies. More recently however the mood here has seemed to shift a little into a Trump fatigue and a sense that we can no longer be confident of America as the world once knew her. And so I echo your view that it is in Jesus that we put our trust – not in the White House nor in the American alliance. As we sit here Down Under with China our largest trading partner yet doing things we aren’t comfortable with in the South China Sea & the Pacific, Trump fatigue challenges us to focus on the road our own society is taking and take more responsibility (& prayer) for our own nation’s destiny.

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