Comments on: When your monuments lie and your national day offends, change them https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/ AUTHOR | SPEAKER | MISSIOLOGIST | AGITATOR Thu, 19 Oct 2017 00:39:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.4 By: Andy Doerksen https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/#comment-3146 Thu, 19 Oct 2017 00:39:27 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=27175#comment-3146 I’m sorry, but – “oppressed citizens”? Get real.

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By: Eric https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/#comment-2319 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 03:38:08 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=27175#comment-2319 I believe Australia Day was observed on different dates in earlier years. No reason it needs to be 26th Jan.

There were Europeans visiting Australia over 100 years before Cook:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_exploration_of_Australia

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By: David Berlach https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/#comment-2317 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 01:15:38 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=27175#comment-2317 I totally agree Mike – we need to face up to this history; I actually think it provides such an incredible opportunity for our country to move forward together. If you haven’t already, you should get your hands on a copy of Bruce Pascoe’s “Dark Emu” (https://www.bookdepository.com/Dark-Emu-Bruce-Pascoe/9781489380388?redirected=true&utm_medium=Google&utm_campaign=Base2&utm_source=AU&utm_content=Dark-Emu&selectCurrency=AUD&w=AF45AU96QV7VNPA80CPXACHR&pdg=kwd-313064272686:cmp-680104063:adg-32696820702:crv-151943499815:pid-9781489380388:dev-c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrIG2z9fu1QIV2QMqCh2G-gRVEAQYASABEgJVDvD_BwE) – it’s an amazing book and hopefully the start of a new era of true history telling in Australia.

Brooke’s talk on Monday was very moving and challenging – I’ve been studying australian indigeneous history since high school and, knowing so much of this history, and the australian church’s apathy towards it, the ongoing plight of Australia’s first peoples is deeply shameful. If only our Christian communities would get as wound up about this issue as they seem intent to about SSM…

(ps – both my wife and I were there on Monday and have to say, the women ruled the day in our opinion! Thanks for organising the day – as “lay people” (whatever that means) and Christians aiming to model Christ in business, we found the whole day really thought provoking and prompted a desire in us to continually re-orient ourselves around what it means to follow Christ in our day.)

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By: James https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/#comment-2316 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 00:25:59 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=27175#comment-2316 Reminds me of this action in Boundary st in West end (Brisbane).

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbane-could-rename-historically-racist-boundary-streets-20160129-gmhgi3.html

So named because it refers to a “boundary line” which was a “a racist policy that separated European arrivals from the local Jagera and Turrbal populations.”

In one sense changing a name or date (or removing a monument) feels like a “white washing” or covering up of racist history.

I think it’s better to modify or add to historical monuments in a way that both calls out historical racism but also signifies change.

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By: Michael Frost https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/#comment-2315 Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:03:38 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=27175#comment-2315 In reply to Dustin Wright.

Yeah, although I’ve seen a monument to Cook on Big Island, HI, commemorating where the Polynesians killed him and chopped him up. Not sure if the memorial is to Cook or the Hawaiians.

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By: Dustin Wright https://mikefrost.net/monuments-lie-national-day-offends-change/#comment-2314 Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:40:09 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=27175#comment-2314 Juneteenth is celebrated by some in Texas, it commemorates the day that Texas slaves learned of their freedom. this was 2 1/2 years after Emancipation Day (would also be another day to celebrate!)

I recall a statue of James Cook on the island of Kauai, HI. Is says he discovered the land, got out of his ship, fired a cannon and claimed the land as British territory. No one else had any claim to the land, least of all the Polynesian peoples.

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