Comments on: Renounce your white Jesus https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/ AUTHOR | SPEAKER | MISSIOLOGIST | AGITATOR Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:49:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.4 By: Fred https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-22670 Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:49:09 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-22670 The painting of the black Jesus is about as accurate as . . . . . .

paintings of the white Jesus.

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By: Kenneth Darling https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-22488 Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:40:01 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-22488 In reply to Chris.

Thanks Mike for input on yet another article about “White Jesus”…
It’s great that we have so many bloggers and writers that seem to all think alike and of course believe it’s their duty to dictate what others do… Especially Believers.
Now you and I both know that Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus’s “Color” mentioned… Find me a passage that describes The Lord’s physical and national skin color and I’ll apologize.
So as far as I’m concerned the person who sees a “White” Jesus is just as correct as those who, wanna make everything about Skin Color nowadays, believe he was a so called Palestinian. You weren’t there, I wasn’t there they weren’t there and they weren’t there.
I also Must comment on the so-called “Typical” Galilean man who lived in Israel (I named it Israel on purpose Israelkanda FoEva! ) that this Neave fabricated…
How in anyway possible is this called a “Typical” man from Galilee? BECAUSE OF 1 Skull? 1 Skull seriously? That is not only lazy research but also incredibly Hilarious I must say.
So Neave decides one day “I’m Going To Fabricate What An AVERAGE or “Typical” Galilean man looked like in Jesus’s Day… ”
He then goes into Galilee and digs up 1 UNO SINGLE Skull and BAM you got Yo Self A Brown Jesus Folks…
Was there still skin left on the skull that didn’t lose its shade for the 2000 years in the dirt? Of course not so how did Neave determine the Skin Color of this One UNO Single Skull? He didn’t… He grabbed the color that his personal opinion guided him to.
I still cannot get over the ONE SKULL being regarded as TYPICAL its Asinine.
God didn’t give us an Image of Jesus for a reason… The person who has a painting of a White Jesus hanging in their living room is no more wrong, wicked, sinful or right as the very insecure person who, has to make Skin Color apart of everything, Hangs Coolio Jesus on the Wall…
And what is even more beautiful about it is the fact when those who reach Heaven and finally lay eyes upon the Lord IT WON’T EVEN MATTER AT ALL… White Chocolate Jesus, Oreo Jesus, Rolo JESUS, Caramel Jesus or “Palestinian” Jesus. We will be in the presence of the Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, if you catch yourself really stressing about this issue or if your triggered than I really can guarantee you will have a very tough time in the coming months when it hits the fan in this world.

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By: Lesley https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-15993 Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:39:45 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-15993 If Jesus was a Jew then wouldn’t he have been white skinned with black hair and dark eyes the same as all those in the Nazi concentration camps?

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By: Stephen Goard https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-15855 Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:41:34 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-15855 Thank you Mike for this ‘reality-check’ for those who place so much importance on Jesus’ inclusion in their own Western white-culture that they deny Jesus’ own ethnic & cultural origins!
Even as a child I would look at the illustrations in the RSV bible I was given as a christening-present, & puzzle over the Scandie-Christ depicted knowing that Middle-Eastern people don’t at all look like that. If Jesus really was blonde & blue-eyed, there would’ve been absolutely no need for Judas to be bribed for his betrayal! Along with the incidences when Jesus avoids capture by the authorities by slipping away in the crowd, the account of him not being recognised by his disciples on the road to Emmaus in Luke 24:13, also supports the Gospels’ message that it wasn’t physical-appearance that set Jesus apart from everybody else!
Also, particularly after studying Art History at high-school, then university, I found it very incongruous knowing that Jesus, like his father Joseph, spent many years in the physically demanding job of a carpenters, often shown so thin & scrawny in crucifixion scenes!
In those images it seems that starvation was more likely to kill Jesus before the cross did!

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By: Michael Frost https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-15847 Fri, 10 Jul 2020 01:24:38 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-15847 In reply to Chris.

It’s a bit more complicated than the simple east-west, Muslim-Christian divide, Chris. The church has had a continual presence in Africa and the Middle East to this day. You can find beautiful, ancient images of brown-skinned Jesus from Ethiopia, Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula, and Syria. But as Christendom in both its forms took root in Western Europe and Russia, royal patrons funded the production of religious art, reaching its high point in the West with the Renaissance. We can’t blame Caravaggio, Michelangelo or Bellini for painting Jesus as a white European. They used Italian models. They didn’t have access to encyclopedias to know what Middle Eastern people looked like or dressed like. Over time these beloved images came to dominate our imaginations so much so that even by the 19th and 20th centuries when we DID know what Middle Eastern men looked like, artists like Warner Sallman and Holman Hunt were still producing devotional images based on the long-haired, white-skinned version of European art. Then Hollywood got in on the act and cast actors like Max Von Sydow, Robert Powell and Jeffrey Hunter as Jesus and the dye was cast.

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By: Chris https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-15838 Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:56:38 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-15838 I’ll send this to some of my friends and am thoroughly excited at the reaction it’s going to get. Your rabble rousing will provide some enjoyable (hopefully enlightening if my friends and I handle the conversation with respect) debate.

I have a couple of questions.

Was there a more naturally positive uptake in Roman/Greek (white) cultures, or maybe a wider more wholesale acceptance to Jesus by Europeans?

East of the “middle east” seems to have never had the same kind of uptake and successfully stamped out any meaningful presence of the church from the turn of millenia for about 500 years? Not withstanding the resurgence of faith in eastern countries in more recent decades.

The Muslims were very successful in pushing the church back well into Europe, out of North Africa and into the minority wherever it survived within its boarders.

Was the increasing whiteness of Jesus a result or cause of this?

Was it an effective tool to give a white gloss to Jesus to make him more relateable to Europe when they were the intended audience and were predominantly white? But now it’s out of date in the multicultural West context?

Is what is proposed here just the same thing? Re-casting Jesus into Australian first people’s context, Mexican or African because they are now the intended audience?

Thanks for the reminder that we are released by God’s gracious act in Jesus into freedom (but I’m not a liberatiin theology fan), and that this freedom is for his glory, and not exclusively for any race or any other “privileged” section of humanity, but for all of us.

I’m all for surrendering our whitified Jesus and stopping to listen to how other people see Jesus through different eyes and seeing what can be learnt (including what we have to learn from our church fathers, monks, nuns, theologians and missionaries).

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By: Cheryl Jacobs https://mikefrost.net/renounce-your-white-jesus/#comment-15813 Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:29:09 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=29554#comment-15813 An important and challenging post, Mike. Your comments about”inclusion” especially insightful. Thanks.

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