Comments on: They’re dying in Egypt while we’re whining about Easter hat parades https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/ AUTHOR | SPEAKER | MISSIOLOGIST | AGITATOR Thu, 05 Oct 2017 03:54:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.4 By: Karen Ferguson https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-898 Tue, 02 May 2017 04:41:45 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-898 I just totally agree. Thank you so much.

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By: Nick Tuohy https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-668 Thu, 13 Apr 2017 00:33:51 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-668 A few people have raised the point about not dismissing instances of prejudice against Christians in the West while talking about the much more serious persecution of Christians in Egypt and other places. Having thought about it, I think this is right. We rightly don’t condemn women in the West for fighting against inequality in what they are paid, just because it is not as serious as the persecution and brutality women face in other parts of the world. And we don’t minimise the hurt an indigenous football player receives by way of a racist slur at the footy because some people in other countries are killed in racist attacks. I think we just agree to call out injustice, discrimination and persecution in any form.

And in agreement with the main thrust of Mike’s post here, Others have written/commented this week on how Western media and politicians downplay global Christian persecution. In an opinion piece for the Telegraph, Journalist and Historian, Dr Tim Stanley wrote: “When Christians are killed for being Christians, politicians overlook it and public interest fades”.
“We should call what’s going on in some Muslim countries a war on Christianity because that’s what it is. If we refuse to do this to avoid causing offence, we are allowing our worst enemies to police our language. “There is one other reason why we’re so nervous about engaging with this fight: the West is reluctant to identify itself as Christian.
“Our spirit has become so weak, our culture so vapid, that we struggle to see that the rights, the democracy, the religious pluralism that we all enjoy in our part of the world were not invented yesterday but are part of a historic, global story of Christian social progress. “We’ve forgotten who we are. No wonder that when we see members of our religious family suffer, we don’t realise the responsibility that we have for them.”

As Mike asks, “Can we pray for those who suffer because of their allegiance to Christ?” Yes, we can and we must. And we must also not allow silence to prevail regarding their plight.

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By: D Brown https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-663 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:13:13 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-663 In reply to Jamie Archer.

We are all gods childrens the Western world has lost the way in protecting and turning the countries back to be Christian

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By: Moni Hall https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-662 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:17:04 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-662 Thank you Mike for writing the truth. Living in Australia and I came from a Coptic Egyptian background. Our hearts are gutted & tears have not stopped when watching our people killed, bombed & persecuted for simple basic principles we take here for granted !!!! .But i am so proud of them, they witnessed Christ to a very stubborn-hearted nation & they walked with Jesus through the crucifix in this Holly week. Not sure if you saw the media interviews of the families who lost their dear ones .. unbelievable their response ! They are all forgiving the ones who killed their mums, their dads & their own child !! They pray for terrorists salvations & Christ to open their eyes !! These are the gems & the salt of this world ! These are the ones Christ chosen to witness Him on earth in this generation .. sadly sadly, We live in a culture that moulded us to be a lukewarm , not that we hot or cold ! We get offended from nothing . We celebrate the bunnies & left the crucified who died & ressurcted for us..
The kingdom of heaven will have be worthy to those who really fought the good fight & fnished the race where God has called them to be ..

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By: Mike Frost https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-656 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 04:11:20 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-656 In reply to Dave.

I appreciate your tone and the kindness that motivates your comment, but I’m not sure a blog article entitled, “They’re dying in Egypt while we’re whining about Easter hat parades, although some are being quite reasonably concerned about losing your jobs because of your stance on same-sex marriage” quite rolls off the tongue. 😉

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By: Dave https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-655 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 03:13:42 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-655 In reply to Mike Frost.

Thanks Mike, some helpful perspective there! I want to suggest something that might be helpful for people to hear you better: I often find that some of your statements in intending to (rightly) point out the seriousness of the situations of our brothers and sisters overseas, unnecessarily dismiss or reduce the experiences that brother’s and sisters have in our culture. “Whining” or “Can we make a pact here in the West to stop referring to our own persecution or hostility or marginalization ever again?” are not particularly gracious, helpful and careful in affirming real hurts (however less than that of overseas) that our local brothers and sisters sometimes face. It is possible to hold the two together carefully without having to subtract from one. I know you don’t mean to dismiss the loss of being able to do business (ie cakes), have to give up a job as a X (X being marriage celebrant or other) or those who experience ridicule in the workplace, but sometimes your writings throughout choice of language/phrases suggest otherwise.
In dismissing one thing well please be more careful in language and gracious towards other brothers & sisters. Apart from that, thanks brother!

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By: Greg Gallaher https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-650 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:04:07 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-650 Honestly, we have not only trivialized persecution here in the West with our whining over feeling marginalized, we been complicit in the trivialization of Easter! Easter is not about hat parades, bunnies or candy. I visited several Coptic churches in Egypt last year and worshiped in more than one. There is a sobriety to living out one’s faith in Jesus in Egypt, which I fear many of us in the United States have lost. Lord, have mercy on us as well as those who genuinely suffer for the cause of Christ.

Excellent post, Mike. I posted a link to it on our church’s Facebook page.

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By: Marsha https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-647 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:06:49 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-647 As a Coptic Christian living in the West, all the more reason to have the word “Easter” and to have Easter Hat Parades.

They are dying for it, literally, and we in the West can’t even say it.

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By: Mike Frost https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-646 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 05:13:51 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-646 In reply to Michelle.

I agree, Michelle. It can be easy to locate the enemy “out there”, whether it’s radical Islam or something else, without looking within to see the ways we can be our own worst enemies.

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By: Michelle https://mikefrost.net/theyre-dying-egypt-whining-easter-hat-parades/#comment-645 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 01:42:43 +0000 https://mikefrost.net/?p=26847#comment-645 In reply to Sonja Howard.

I am not sure that we do all know the real enemy is Islam.

When children in our churches are abused by people who are meant to protect them. When one in three women are raped and abused. When doctrinal correctness is more important that LGBTIQA people suiciding. Christianity is the cause of just as many problems as Islam, but it is much easier to make ‘them’ the enemy.

Easter is still Easter regardless of your hat parade, regardless of the packaging on some chocolates, regardless of the wording of greetings at specific times of the year.

For God so LOVED the WORLD….. not just those who we have decided are worthy.

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