Dude you’ve obviously never been discriminated against for being the gender God made you. Think its no big deal to be told your less smart because you’re a woman, over and over again? Think it’s no big deal to be told being raped is your fault? Think its no big deal to be told “when are you going to have more children? You need more children.” Right after you’ve miscarried?
Think its ok to tell God how to do his job and say no woman is ever allowed to teach ever, without reading the context of the scriptures?
Think its funny? Think again.
You don’t have to spend half your life feeling unsafe just for walking down the street, worrying you’ll be catcalled, asked to show your tips or being looked up and down, sometimes even in church. You don’t get called a slut because you hugged your hurting friend who was a guy, because ” good Christian girls shouldn’t hug boys.” The guy was in tears. I wasn’t going to deny him a hug. You don’t get to your sole existence is to please men. You don’t get told to clean the toilets after serving the church by sewing, cleaning and serving for four years, when you ask if you can sing! You don’t get treated differently because of your gender. You don’t experience this rubbish, therefore, you don’t get to say what we can and can’t do or what we are allowed to call out! If its bad behaviour, I will call it out and no one has the right to silence me. So shut up!

Interesting that men holding power over women is “equality” but women having equal rights and power as men is somehow making you feel oppressed.

I wonder if men like you are even saved, your contempt for your fellow human beings (that Jesus elevated to your status, btw) is so blatant and directly opposed to Christ’s teachings.

Please read 2 John.

Women were leaders in gatherings of equal brothers and sisters in their homes.

Not necessarily small homes and little gatherings.

Elect lady ~ means presiding chief officeholder of the assembly. All women.

This was the early church network Jesus ordained. This was Mary: the apostolic house mother of John and the rest. Meaning: lead officeholder as Deborah was Judge as a mother in Israel in her office.

We see John the Beloved refer to Mary in her lead office ~ while speaking equally as a brother in the Lord as well.

What “Paul’s presented was an opposing institutional sexist top down hierarchy opposite model. The false church.

We can take note of the rise of the false institutional male domination discrimination sexist religious false church of the Pharisees through “Paul”.

Who opposed Jesus the entire earthly ministry of Jesus as a Pharisee in Jerusalem.

But it’s a choice whether to heed “Paul” or obey Jesus as John the Beloved, Mary, and the network of apostolic mother lead house church saints did.

If the Messiah was an institutional Assyrian from Turkey born Roman Pharisee of the Pharisees: then I would agree with “Paul” the Messiah that women must wear headcoverings SHAMEfaced, subject to and reverence (worship) men as God.

But this religion of this “Paul” he brought out of Arabia seeing a spectre on the Road To Assyria (Damascus) is foreign.

Because I receive Jesus in the Gospel of John as Messiah. Jesus did His first miracle with a woman: His lead apostle. His first evangelist was a woman apostle sent to Samaria.

Jesus disobeys “Paul” at every turn in the Gospel of John.

So, I have to follow Jesus. The Egalitarian Christ ~ the Messiah.

Not the sexist institutional Assyrian Roman Pharisee who replaced Jesus in later opposite teachings.

I am very comfortable following Jesus.

And do not hear the voice of the stranger: to follow him.

You see, many cult leaders have arisen. Written many books. None of these are “scripture”: though they all claim such.

I am not the subject of the Council of such men. Or those who call such fraudulent books “their scripture”.

I am the follower of Jesus alone.

He spoke for Himself in the Gospel of John.

His words are Life.

I didn’t know that an Assyrian from Turkey who was a Pharisee of the Pharisees born Roman: was God.

Can you show me in the Gospel of John where Jesus said He came to prepare the way for the Pharisee who was coming after Him?

Who would organize institutional religion around the male domination sexist discrimination of the Pharisees?

Because without Jesus quoted in the Gospel of John commanding us to follow one who would come after Him: I am rejecting every epistle of “Paul”.

Continuing in the Word of Jesus in the Gospel of John.

Because Jesus is Fully Egalitarian in the Gospel of John.

And I don’t believe God changed into the image of “Paul”: a religious sexist institutional Assyrian Roman Pharisee
I believe I found the Real Messiah ~ the One and only Christ ~ in the Gospel of John : Jesus.

Can you prove me wrong?

And show He changed?

And is now “Pauline”?

I absolutely understand why people are leaving the church. Most people grossly misunderstand the Bible, misquote the Bible, and like the Pharisees have no personal relationship with God. Deborah was a prophet and judge over all of Israel, appointed by God, and told a man what to do (Judges 4). Pheobe and Priscilla were both collators with Paul. Priscilla taught a man. Lydia was well known by Paul and had her own business and house fellowship. I think this biggest issues are 1. Ignorance 2. People do not study the Bible in it’s original language 3. People pull out verses and are clueless what they mean 4. Pride-some men are insecure (the flip side of pride) and want to bully and dominate. Jesus stated the greatest among you will be your servant. Jesus also said the world would know His disciples by their love (John 13:34-35). Love does not dominate, oppress, or bully.

If you look at the demographics of the church a good chunk of the volunteers and missionaries are female, not male. God did not say women are only good for marriage and having babies (though that is noble).

I truly hope for the next generations people get it right. Paul commended women. In his letters that seem to prohibit women he was addressing certain issues in those churches. I highly recommend people study the original language. A book that helps and is written by a man is Why Not Women.

The sad thing is when we see God face to face, I wonder how many men God will say, “You limited your wife or daughters-My daughters. You refused to allow women in your church to do what I called them to do. Instead of being like My Son and empowering others, you limited them.” I often wonder how many women sit in churches dusty and not fulfilled because they have a calling from God they do not use.

1 in 3 or 4 women are abused in the world. The stat is not vastly different in the church; verbal, physical, and sexual abuse. I have counseled Christian women in marriages from the pit and enduring horrific abuse and they are told it’s their fault and to submit to male authority. Ephesians 5:21 tells ALL believers to submit to one another-yet it is rarely preached. God gave both Adam and Eve dominion in the Garden (Genesis 1:27-28). And when God said to Eve your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you…in Hebrew God was saying, “Because of sin, your desire will be to be a people pleaser and your husband will desire to rule over you.” He was stating the consequences of sin, not His original design. We get God’s original design in Genesis before the fall and Jesus redeemed us.

When Paul talks about headship in marriage, the husband is supposed to take responsibility to seek to protect and provide…not be his wife’s boss. The original audience of his letters would have understood better than we do today. God created two powerful people to love each other, mutually submit, and mutually serve. Eve was created as an Ezer Kenegdo (Hebrew) which is poorly translated helper. It means someone who adds strength, power, and aids. Ezer is a Hebrew word God uses for Himself in scripture. Kenegdo means equal but opposite complement. Man and woman were both made in the image of God to complement and add value to each other. It’s sad how translations of man and years of misunderstanding parts of the Bible have created some twisted views of who God created women to be. An Ezer Kenegdo was intended to be a warrior, not a maid or side kick or just for man’s pleasure.

God help us. Sometimes the church GROSSLY misrepresents God and then complains when people don’t want to join.

More like victims of feminism. A woman is a victim if she’s been convinced she’s happier working in a cubicle than being with her babies. Feminism isn’t about equality. It’s about gaining power over men. God laid it out in Genisis when he told Eve that her desire will be for her husband. A better translation is a desire to control her husband, or men in general. This is why so many men hating lesbians join the military or get into law enforcement. They do this claiming equality with men but demand standards be lowered to accommodate them.

Exactly. There are no female pastors, just false teachers.